[konart]

>The only folks who ever have problems are people who need to be told how to use their devices.

While this may be the case - many iPhone users love their phones (and iOS) for a different reason.

I've been with Android for some time: rooting, custom builds, different launchers, you name it. And it was fun back when I was in my early 20s, when had the time for this and when it was something new (HTC One, the very first model was my last Android phone).

Then I've bought iPhone 6 (I had switched from Arch to macOS few months earlier) and tried a few android phones since.

I simply don't need those "workflows".

I need about a dozen apps (the ones I use almost daily), I want them to be thought through (like Drafts) and I want my OS to work and behave the same way at least 5 years later (not to mention security updates and such).

This is where iPhone delivers and where Android quite often fails. I have iPhone 13 now and I can be sure that even few years from now everything will just work the same way does now.

[chneu]

you p much repeated what i said. you want to be told how to use your phone. you'll use the apps that you're given to do the tasks they decide you can do on your phone. that's fine. that's why stock ios exists.

but the person i was replying to was acting like android doesn't work. They were trying to do things that their chosen walled-garden(apple/ios) prevents them from doing, then blaming anything but their walled-garden. they were showing clear bias.

[konart]

>you p much repeated what i said. you want to be told how to use your phone. you'll use the apps that you're given to do the tasks they decide you can do on your phone. that's fine.

No, I have said entirely different thing.

Try to climb off you horse and maybe you will notice the difference between "apps you are given" and "apps I decided to use that are available on the market".

>but the person i was replying to was acting like android doesn't work

Well, that person was too emotional and given us almost no details. But to be honest the way Android behaves (unless you want to hack most of it) - it can be described as "doesn't work" from iOS user's perspective. And no, not because of "walled garden" or some other bs you imagine. Most of the time android phones (yes, even top models) simply lag (or start lagging over the time). Not to mention that the base line quality of software is simply lower than on iOS.

>they were showing clear bias.

And so are you. You are doing _exactly_ the same when writting things like "walled-garden" and "you want to be told"