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by fragmede 403 days ago
Looking at the Ryzen 7 9800X running at 5.2 GHz, if you chopped off 99.999% of that, you'd get a 52 kHz CPU, with 6.6 megaflops vs the original 6.6 gigaflops.

For reference, the original 4004 Intel CPU from 1971 ran at 740 kHz, so 52 kHz isn't even enough computing to do a secure TLS web connection without an excessively long wait. The 4004 did not do floating point, however, and it wouldn't be until between the 486 (1989) and the Pentium (1993) that we see 5-10 MFLOPS of performance.
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vardump 402 days ago
> 6.6 megaflops vs the original 6.6 gigaflops.

Hmm... I think 9800X should be able to do at least 32 FLOPS per cycle per core. So 1.3 TFLOPS is the ceiling for the CPU. 1/100000 leaves you... 12 MFLOPS.

Then there's the iGPU for even more FLOPS.

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grues-dinner 402 days ago
99.999 may be an ass-pull of a figure, but I was thinking more in terms of having whole datacentres screaming along doing crypto, billions of cat videos, Big Data on "this guy bought a dishwasher, give him more dishwasher adverts", spinning up a whole virtual server to compile a million line codebase on every change, and AI services for pictures of a chipmunk wearing sunglasses. There's a good chunk of computation that we as a society could just go without. I know of embedded systems that run at hundreds of MHz and could replaced by no CPU at all and still fulfill the main task to some extent. Because early models indeed used no CPU. Many fewer functions, but they still fundamentally worked.

Many things we now take for granted would indeed be impossible. I suppose the good news is that in some electropunk timeline where everyone had to use tubes, your TLS connection might not be practical, but the NSA datacentre would be even less practical. On the other hand, there'd be huge pressure on efficiency in code and hardware use. Just before transistorisation, amazing things were done with tubes or electromechanically, and if that had been at the forefront of research for the last 70 years, who knows what the state of the at would look like. Strowger switches would look like Duplo.

Probably there would still be a lot of physical paperwork, though!

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fragmede 402 days ago
> 99.999 may be an ass-pull of a figure,

Comparisons to old technology is just something I do for fun, don't read too much into it. :)

Fun fact: A usb-C to HDMI dongle for has more computing power than the computer that took us to the moon.

As far as the NSA being even less practical, they're among the few who have the staff that could eke every last cycle of performance out of what remained. Maybe the Utah datacenter wouldn't work, but Room 641A long predates that.

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