[randomcarbloke]

your largest city is 9 times smaller than London, admittedly it has some dirtiness as all cities do but I'd say it's cleaner than Berlin (having worked there) which is a quarter the size, certainly cleaner than Paris (although Paris is larger of course), and cleaner than New York (also having worked there) which is fairly close in population.

[fennecfoxy]

Certainly, the denser population doesn't help. But on average I think British people tend to litter more, destroy public property etc.

I had never heard of the term "anti-social behaviour" until I moved here.

Don't get me wrong, there are many, many brilliant things about the British and the UK as well. I just wish more people cared - like how does the public not react with outright fury when a company yet again dumps sewerage into waterways, as they have done several times before - and that company is given a slap on the wrist (fine) rather than obliterated & replaced with a scorched Earth policy as it's completely unacceptable.

And those same people who are apathetic to such things say stuff like "oh I wouldn't do that...the canals and rivers are gross and filled with bacteria and rubbish" when I tell them I'm going kayaking or canoeing. Like...be proud of your country! Be swift & decisive when companies pollute the water, or members of the public break something or cause public disorder.

[Lio]

> although Paris is larger of course

That surprises me, I was under the impression that Greater London was a bit bigger than Greater Paris on most metrics.

Unless you mean the City of London (The Square Mile) itself, which is definitely much smaller than Paris proper.

[randomcarbloke]

no I mean greater paris (ile de france) and greater london, I think london is about a million shy of paris.

But it is actually closer than I thought, closer in size to paris than new york which surprises me.

I could be wrong though, maybe London is actually bigger than most estimates.