[_heimdall]

Not sure if its an unpopular opinion here, but in those kinds of cases I think browsers are just a bad deployment target for the problem.

Dealing with cross-platform issues and app store policies can be frustrating, but the web was fundamentally designed for documents and it just doesn't lend itself well to complex, mostly or entirely clients side apps.

[klabb3]

It’s not unpopular, I see it as the majority opinion on HN. It’s based on skepticism against web in general, and outright hatred for electron (which is at least somewhat justified).

My app is 11MB bundle (most of which is an unrelated native extension) on most platforms, and has complex stateful business logic and views. It performs mediocre only on Linux due to lacking investment in webkitgtk.

> the web was fundamentally designed for documents

And yet it successfully penetrated the application server market, which it (JS) was never designed for. Stateful apps are much closer to the original design. The gap is essentially a few enumerable pain points that get smaller every year. Most importantly though, the only other toolkit supporting all 3 desktop, 2 mobile and web is Flutter, which is proprietary and entirely downstream the goodwill of a mega-corp.