[sweeter]

"suffer" in this context is using some form of renewable energy and curtailing the industries that pump the 95% of all CO2 into the air. The absolute horror.

You say this, but if you think that is suffering, wait until clean water is a limited resource. You aren't going to be running away to Mars. We can't even fix the very simple issues on Earth.

[Loughla]

Suffer, in this context, is living a life that is completely different than the very convenient one we're used to. Not just renewable based.

The technology just isn't there, and I don't think it will be there by the time we need it.

Clean water is already a limited, and fought over resource. The water wars in the US will start in either Colorado or Texas within 50 years. I'm calling it now. There will be actual violence.

[sweeter]

What tech isn't there? It's been there for decades at this point. Unless you mean delusional ideas like pumping even more waste into the air in hopes that we can magically pull it out. Yes, that's always been a lie, and will always be untenable. The reality is that the US has no intention of moving away from oil and thats purely due to financial incentive and existing power structures being intertwined with oil barons

[Loughla]

Storage and grid resiliency is what I'm talking about. Renewables just aren't there yet. I genuinely wish they were and dream about an alternate timeline where electric cars weren't killed in the crib.