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by jeffparsons 396 days ago
So are there any "basically respectable" motherboard manufacturers? Or is there a similar story about each of the big players?

Asking for a friend who is thinking about building a new PC soon.

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All the consumer brands are pozzed. My last build (i7-14700K) used an MSI board. Their secureboot is still broken. The BIOS setup is complete mess, and all the settings are reset after a BIOS update. I have to unplug and replug my USB keyboard after a poweroff, or it doesn't work. But I insisted on a board without RGB lights, and that limited the selection. Computers are over.
There really needs to be an open source project for a PC motherboard.
Just a few days ago people were talking about this on the kicad discord. A chinese team made an open hardware x86_64 motherboard and published it not too long ago. Then they were essentially wiped off the face of the planet.

That was the day I learned you literally cannot develop a computer motherboard without Intel's permission. Turns out Intel is no different than the likes of Nintendo.

I doubt that.

Chinese "tinker" has been making countless "x99" motherboard that reuse consumer chipset like h81 or b85.

I don't think Intel approve that

Yes, if you want to go that route, you'll be better off going with RISC-V.
I absolutely want to go with RISC-V longer-term, but it seems we're still a few years away from RISC-V boards being a pragmatic choice for the average workstation, unless I've missed some recent development.
Asrock (sub-brand of Asus but seemingly independent in the product and dev side) has been fine for me over the ~10 years I've bought their mobos. There was the thing a few months ago with X870 mobos that were apparently frying CPUs, but I think that was not sufficiently proven to be their fault?

That said, in their X670 / B650 they have the same setting as what this article is about, and it could be equally as broken on the software side as Asus's is, but I wouldn't know because I don't use Windows so I disabled it.

Asus and AsRock are separate since 2010.
Its new owner since 2010 is still part of the Asus group, but sure it's technically a different company from Asus proper.