[kcb]

> BMW, GM, Ford,

Glorified cruise control does not equal self driving. I know everyone has to hate on Tesla, but FSD in its current form is a decade ahead of these. It doesn't take long looking at videos of actual people using these systems to understand the massive capability gap between Teslas FSD and everyone elses driver assistance system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWDVJ4FjfU

[thebruce87m]

> FSD in its current form is a decade ahead of these.

FSD is still only level 2.

Honda and Mercedes are the only two companies to sell level 3 capable cars, but these are only level 3 under certain limited conditions.

You may be correct that the level 2 performance of FSD is ahead of the level 2 performance of any other car, but I don’t think we can call Tesla king until they also match the level 3 performance of these other cars under those conditions.

[kcb]

Maybe but yes those level 3 systems need the stars to align to actually be active from what I understand. It's just as far as I know, there's no other system that allows someone to just enter an address, navigate through both city and highway, then arrive at a destination.

[Aloisius]

Pretty sure they were referring to Cruise (the robotaxi company) not GM's existing supercruise feature.

Of course, with GM bringing Cruise in-house and abandoning the taxi service, there's no telling how much of their technology will be used.

[gamblor956]

Glorified cruise control does not equal self driving Elon Musk disagrees. He's been calling glorified cruise control self-driving for a decade.

FSD in its current form is a decade ahead of these Yes, in terms of accidents and fatalities, FSR is way ahead of the entire rest of the industry. In terms of actual driving quality? Super Cruise and BMW have it beat. Yes, they're geographically limited. That's because GM and BMW are acting responsibly and making sure it works before they open it up everywhere. Move fast and break things doesn't work when the things being broken are people.

I got a video of my own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUGh0qAqWA Goes into detail about why FSD crashes so frequently and why the problem cannot be fixed as long as FSD remains reliant on cameras. Indeed, if you type in "FSD accident" or any variation of "accident" there are thousands of videos, many of them taken by the Tesla owner themself.

[kcb]

> In terms of actual driving quality? Super Cruise and BMW have it beat.

Whatever you want to believe. Keep fighting the good fight.