[phartenfeller]

Not for me as I like looking at actual HTML but definetly intersting. Good job!

I also like Svelte which uses it's own language and needs transpilation. I think that's key to elegance as JS was not really designed to control layout, style and logic all at once.

[vanviegen]

It takes some getting used to, but the advantage of using JavaScript for layout, is that it mixes well with your control logic. JSX makes loops and ifs hard to look at. Svelte/Vue/etc invent templating languages with their own control logic - while we're already running within a full-fledged language.

Originally, we did this style of programming in CoffeeScript. Without all of the braces, it looks at lot cleaner. :-)

Svelte is one of the frameworks I stuck with the longest. There's a lot to like. What I didn't like was the gotchas around change tracking. I guess runes is intended to fix that, but... damn. :-)

[netdevphoenix]

> it looks at lot cleaner

It always gets me when people say "cleaner" because the concept of cleanliness is subjective yet you see devs throw it around as if their views were the views of everyone and evidently right by any measure possible.