[UltraSane]

I am so tired of this lie being repeated endlessly. We have a perfectly safe way to handle nuclear "waste":

reprocess the dirty fuel and bury the actual waste deep underground like Finland is doing at the Onkalo spent nuclear fuel repository.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo...

And there is still very much a need for zero-carbon DISPATCHABLE electricity of witch nuclear is the ONLY choice. You simply cannot have 100% of your electricity from only solar and wind because it is far too variable and we simply don't have the technology to store electricity cheaply enough.

Your attitude towards nuclear energy is as irrational as the average antivaxer towards vaccines.

[worik]

> bury the actual waste deep underground

How deep, to stay put thousands of generations?

[UltraSane]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repo...

[worik]

No answer to the problems that:

A) The area is not known to be geologically stable over the extraordinarily long time periods necessary. (Nowhere is....)

B) There is no containment vessel that can last that long

I get tired of the wishful thinking. Being charitable as describing it as that.

In the future, 600 generations from now, when the poisons we lay down now are bubbling up, perhaps people then will have forgotten us. If not, they will not forgive us

And so unnecessary

[UltraSane]

" the extraordinarily long time periods necessary. (Nowhere is....)"

This is the the lie that I'm really tired of people repeating. Nuclear waste isn't THAT dangerous and doesn't have to be kept perfectly isolated for THAT long.

"In the future, 600 generations from now, when the poisons we lay down now are bubbling up,"

You should really be more worried about the 36 billion tons of CO2 we are spewing into the atmosphere every year instead of a TINY amount of nuclear waste many thousands of years in the future.

You are like someone with a malignant tumor worrying about the risks of radiation therapy.

[worik]

The vast majority of nuclear waste needs to be stored only hundreds of years.

But there is still plenty that needs to be stored for hundreds of millennium

There is no answer to that, and no amount of arguing by analogy, argumentum ad hominem nor wishful thinking can make that go away

It is a very good thing we do not need nuclear power

[UltraSane]

"But there is still plenty that needs to be stored for hundreds of millennium"

Stop repeating this lie.

We absolutely need Nuclear. It is the only way to eliminate CO2 emissions from electricity production completely.

[adgjlsfhk1]

hydro is also a 0 carbon dispatchable choice (which is much cheaper)

[worik]

Geothermal

[Kubuxu]

Majority of good spots for hydro were already built up, and if they weren’t, good luck with NIMBY.

[adgjlsfhk1]

meant of the good spots are already used, but we can change how they are used to greatly increase their usefulness to a 0 carbon grid. we can make them all pumped hydro, and start treating hydro as a battery rather than a generation source.