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by BurnGpuBurn 414 days ago
Would they ever give the thing back though?
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The whole idea of giving things back to Egypt is currently tainted by the complete lack of professional respect everyone else on the planet has for the guy running things there. I could picture institutions saying they'll send artifacts back and then just dragging their feet until he retires.
"Gee, sorry my ancestors stole that thing from that house a hundred plus years ago. Too bad there's a jerk living in the house right at this moment, that's why it hasn't been returned yet."

It's a little strange to have so little morals you accept a stolen gift from conquerors and don't make the slightest effort to return it over a considerable period of time, even after doing such a thing becomes the accepted moral thing to do...and then suddenly develop a conscience and set of morals so particular that "who is running the country" means you can't return it.

It's almost like it's a very thin excuse and not a legitimate reason.

It doesn't belong to France, and it's not France's place to decide that they don't like the particular guy running things at that moment and thus refuse to return it.

Really, Europe just has a massive problem refusing to acknowledge any of the brutally oppressive colonialism it was responsible for across centuries...

That might make sense if you were unaware of all the other repatriation projects underway or completed. It’s been a hot subject since the 70’s and there’s been a lot of thinking and work put in.
Why give it back? It seems like a nice gift.
It was a gift from the Ottoman Empire.

That political entity no longer exists, and the people of Egypt would likely never have willingly parted with the many obelisks and other historical artifacts that have left their shores.

Maybe not, but:

1. You need to draw the line somewhere. It is simply not possible (nor even desirable) to redress all historical wrongs. It seems reasonable to not attempt to redress wrongs which are out of living memory for anyone involved.

2. As others pointed out, the people currently living in Egypt is not the same people who lived there when these things were built anyway, and there was a hell of a lot of conquest to get from there to here. This is not a case where the Ottomans stole it from the original owners. That makes this not a very good candidate for giving it back.

The people currently living in Egypt are most definitely the same people that built these things. The Coptic Christians of Egypt liturgical language is a direct descendant of ancient Egyptian and the Muslims of Egypt are well documented to be descended from converted Copts.