[redczar]

Try cancelling Prime. Then try buying something from Amazon without them trying to trick you into a Prime membership. Amazon sucks. Also its return policies over the years have gotten quite obtuse for physical goods in my experience.

[thaumasiotes]

I have canceled Prime. It was a straightforward process. Orders go the way they usually do. There is a call to get Prime, but it's not like it's occupying a place where something else would normally be if you had Prime.

[ocdtrekkie]

> I have canceled Prime. It was a straightforward process.

If you had cancelled Prime any time before mid-2023, you would not say this. Because if you had, you'd know Amazon Prime requires four successive cancellation screens where they change the position of the correct button to press each time. (And then a button which if you press immediately resubscribes you.)

Amazon itself referred to its cancellation process as Project Illiad: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/ftc-sues-amazon-...

[redczar]

You can’t in good faith try to convince anyone that cancelling Prime is as easy as canceling a subscription on iOS. After cancelling prime whenever you order something dark patterns are used to try to get you to sign up. One such patten is that orders default to charging for shipping with a message stating that if you sign up for Prime shipping is free. This is even if your order qualifies for free shipping. Another is that when you checkout you get taken to a page that offers you Prime at a reduced rate for a week or two. You have to decline before checking out.

You are not engaged in a good faith discussion. Peddle this nonsense to someone else.

[niij]

They didn't say it was easier. But I would say my experience _cancelling_ isn't worth a 30% price increase for all my services.

[thaumasiotes]

I think you mean a 43% price increase?

[niij]

I thought the standard fee was 30% for in-app purchases?

[thaumasiotes]

If 30% of the price paid is taken by Apple, that means their commission is 43% of the revenue received by the vendor, the hypothetical price you would otherwise pay. A 30% decrease and a 43% increase are the same size; a 30% decrease is much larger than a 30% increase.

Observe: 0.7 * 1.3 = 0.91.

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