[digianarchist]

The likely outcome is that Apple will reduce the 30% to something at least marginally competitive with alternative payment systems.

[isodev]

The entire “store” model needs to go away. Phones are computers now, just let people download and install whatever they want or need.

[threeseed]

> Phones are computers now

No one but irrelevant nerds think this. And the market has demonstrated this time and time again.

Most people think of phones as being console-like entertainment devices. And aren't interested in scams, malware, virus checkers etc that are needed in a free for all model.

[shakna]

Malware and virus protection apps are already among the most installed across both Android and iOS.

[threeseed]

At least here in Australia. Neither are in the top 50 for either Android or iOS.

And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period.

[shakna]

Here in Australia, Samsung Device Care is in the top 50. [0] In fact, its more often installed than Netflix.

[0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.an...

> And on iOS there are no virus protection apps, period.

iOS has Avast, Avira, Lookout, etc. There are many, many virus protection apps on iOS.

[pjc50]

.. are any of those for iOS non-fradulent?

[digianarchist]

I don't believe this can be done whilst maintaining a strong sandbox.

[postalrat]

What's in these apps that a decent web browser can't do?

[digianarchist]

In a lot of cases nothing but native experience still reigns supreme.

[burnte]

Apple will never do this voluntarily.

[madeofpalk]

Many companies would never use Apple's IAP regardless of the cost because companies want a direct relationship with their user for things like refunds and trials and other stuff.

[crooked-v]

My immediate interpretation of "direct relationship" is one part "we want your email to send you marketing spam" and one part "we want to add as much friction as possible to cancellations".