[elevatortrim]

Microsoft is owing its bad reputation to Windows, Office, Sharepoint!!!, Teams (and more?). The quality of developer tools and languages (C#, Visual Studio, Code and .NET Ecosystem, Azure UI is also great) from Microsoft has been flawless (with some exceptions like webforms, or ui code generation tools of the past).

[whynotmaybe]

Their tooling have never been flawless, and it still isn't.

Only for azure devops, there are +6k problems listed on developer community website with 500 still not closed for the last 6 months. [1]

The complete integration in the ecosystem is what's flawless.

Any company with a better product has to fight that integration and they almost always lose (Sybase, Borland, WordPerfect, Lotus, Netscape...)

1 : https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/AzureDevOps?ftyp...

[senko]

Putting "Azure" and "flawless" into the same sentence shows we might have very different expectations for "flawless".

[blibble]

have we used different Visual Studio's?

it was crap compared to Borland's products 20 years ago

and today it's crap compared to JetBrains'

and christ knows how anyone could consider the Azure UI to be "great"

other than Teams I don't think I've used a worse piece of software

[standyro]

I wouldn’t say that. JetBrains is incredibly bloated and has significantly less community support.

I’ll agree on Teams being crap though, mostly for how dumb it is that they’ve rewritten it multiple times and created a confusing slate of weird versions like “Teams (work or school)”