[em500]

> ... and school lunches should be free (from a EU country, this isn’t even a thing here)

I'm from another EU country (the Netherlands). Primary schools do not provide any lunch or other food whatsoever, secondary schools might have a canteen selling some snacks or low quality fast food. But everyone is basically expected to bring their own or go out/home for lunch.

[fakedang]

Yes, we had the same system when I went to school in a (relatively low-income) expat (Indian) school in the Middle East. But nowhere was a child expected to leave the break hungry - I saw firsthand a teacher ruthlessly scolded by the grade supervisor (who was a GOAT all-round) because she found a student still eating after she had arrived at the class, and sent him to stand outside as punishment.

Another time, a teacher paid for a student's meal because he lost the change he was given by his parents to buy food from the canteen.

And another time, the school canteen just giving away free food at the end of the day to whoever wanted it, because there was no point in them keeping it around.

It's honestly unbelievable that a first world country would let its children go without lunch because even third world countries do not let that happen. I have seen schools in rural Africa that don't let their children starve - in fact, giving a midday meal (and some to take home afterwards) is a way to ensure school attendance.

[pergadad]

No one is starving in the netherlands. There's a difference between offering a canteen but charging for it with some able and some not able to pay, and a general expectation that all bring food from home. Many Dutch, German, etc companies will also not have canteens but rather people bring a sandwich or last night's leftovers from home. The standard warm meal is the evening meal.

[Cthulhu_]

> No one is starving in the netherlands.

This is inaccurate, nearly half a million people struggle to eat enough: https://www.rodekruis.nl/persberichten/450000-mensen-in-verb.... There's food banks, but there's a lot of shame associated with using them; despite that, ~200.000 people a year make use of them: https://voedselbankennederland.nl/wp-content/uploads/2024/09....

Also read the book "Superschool" about what was one of the worst schools in one of the poorest areas of the Netherlands, where there were loads of kids going to school hungry, dirty, and without basics like a coat.

Sorry, your throwaway remark just rubbed me up the wrong way. The Netherlands is not the socialist utopia that some people make it out to be, we just have bike lanes, sorta-legal weed and superior bread / cheese.

[fakedang]

I wasn't talking about the Netherlands per se, but wanted to pinpoint that alternatives exist in places other than the US, which ensure that no kid starves. In fact, my comment was an add-on to yours, as we followed the same system as you guys do in NL.