[Mbwagava]

Whether or not Meta wins this case, I'm never going to support any government that supports both LLMs and IP. Like we have to put up with IP despite having no clear value to a digital society but as soon as it becomes inconvenient it goes out the window? Nah, let's just trash the state and start over.

It's going to take centuries to undo the damage wracked by IP-supported private enterprise. And now we also have to put up with fucking chatbots. This is the worst timeline.

[jMyles]

The good news is that the internet is, fundamentally and in a way that no legacy state can alter, not a place where IP is cognizable.

You are free to copy bytes as you see fit, and the internet treats them identically whether they are random noise or whether a codec can turn them into music, film, books, or whatever inspires you.

The problem is that some humans, justifying their behavior by claiming it as "official", may act out with violence against you if they (rightly or wrongly, that's important to note) perceive that your actions are causing the internet to copy bytes to which they object.

Enduring nonviolence is likely yet ahead as consensus grows over the end of the legitimacy of these legacy states.

[labrador]

I hope you don't think I'm snarky because I'm serious. If you're an American citizen you can homestead in Alaska and cut yourself off from all this if you like.

edit: i'm serious. many americans would be much happier taking this option if they knew it existed. i may take it myself

[sillysaurusx]

Homesteading is tremendously expensive, unfortunately. Most people can’t.

[labrador]

I didn't know that, but in that case there are a lot of young men and women on HN who are financically successful, but are tremendously unhappy. That's the case for me when I looked into it 25 years ago.

[quesera]

Growing food in Alaska sounds like a meager existence, though.

[labrador]

People hunt and fish mostly. That's a big part of the appeal.