[amarant]

Tbf, some colleagues I've had were introducing more bugs than features just fine before LLM's were even a thing.

I've once been at company that had 90%+ such colleagues.

Uff, if that is the future of this industry, I'll retire as well

[anshumankmr]

At least you can correct them, right? Imagine working with pure vibe coders with no CS degree or even a bootcamp under their belt.

[ben_w]

I've had one co-worker with something like a decade of experience on paper, who was proud of his C++ despite having never heard of the standard template library — lots of `new` and `free`, not a single smart pointer (https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/memory#Smart_pointers). And the code they wrote had a lot of copy-paste going on, which I ended up finding because I'd put in a "TODO: deduplicate this" comment somewhere and found it in his newly duplicated class one day.

They absolutely were not interested in learning anything. I left knowing more C++ than they did despite having started there with total C++ experience of a hello world tutorial, and the fact that I still don't count myself as a C++ dev today.

[doix]

To be fair when a company says they use C++, it can mean anything from "C with classes" to crazy metaprogramming with almost automatic memory management. Since they have over 10 years experience, they are almost definitely in the former camp.

I would never utter the phrase "I know C++" because it can mean so many different things to so many different people, and I don't think anyone truly knows the whole language.

Not using templates nor smart pointers doesn't sound that bad to me(unless the entirety/majority of the codebase was written with them in mind), the duplication thing is more questionable.

[ben_w]

It's not so much that this specific person didn't use smart pointers, it's that they had never even heard of them, and wasn't interested either.

"C with classes" is probably a good description, given what I saw from that one person — they didn't understand sub-typing either, and only had a cargo-cult understanding of access specifiers (revealed when the rest of us asked them why they'd duplicated a class file rather than subtyping).

[anshumankmr]

Tbh, I also (sort of) knew C++, studied in school and a few semesters worth in college (CUDA, DSA, Computer vision elective,compiler design) but I still don't know STL. (I had been then interviewing using Java and Python.)

[amarant]

Nope! I reverted a commit once, since a colleague pushed something that didn't compile to master. Sent the guy a polite message notifying him that something seems to have been amiss with his last commit, and to please let me know if he wanted help fixing it.

Boss called me 5 minutes later and tells me off for creating "bad vibes" in the work environment.

Colleague then proceeded to forcepush his "fix" that still didn't even compile to master, removing a new feature I was about to roll out to production, because he didn't know how to merge his changes with the revert commit I'd added

This was when I decided to quit

Oh I should add this developer bragged he had 10+years working experience. Not that I believe him, but still