[cobrausn]

I tend not to swallow propaganda - I generally just dislike his behavior from the stories I've heard, from both friend and foe alike. He basically talked Manning into putting himself in the brig so he can go be the hero. I'm sure Manning was rotting in a cell while Assange was off having the sex (consensual or otherwise) that put the whole operation in jeopardy. I don't like him. Maybe that's all propaganda, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my take on it. His work is necessary but I don't like him.

Besides, look at that smug face. It's seriously in the running for a 'most punchable face alive' award.

[lrei]

I believe that's incorrect. Manning wasn't talked into putting himself in the brick. Well not literally: he bragged about what he had done to someone on an internet chat. That someone was a convicted hacker that gave him up to law enforcement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Chats_with_Adri...

[guelo]

That's some good propaganda there. BTW, I don't know if it's healthy to fantasize about punching people just based on how they look.

[cobrausn]

If it's propaganda then explain the reality of it, don't just claim victory through superior hidden knowledge and wander off.

In regards to your second point, I deal with smug bastards on a day to day basis. Smug isn't so much about how someone looks as it is about how they look at you.

[guelo]

Neither of us know anything except what we've read in news stories which are filtered through layers of different political interests. Like I said, we've swallowed different propaganda.