[freedomben]

We currently have two major apps, One in typescript and one in rails. I have to hire devs for both, and I have not experienced it being any more difficult to find a rails developer or a node/typescript developer. If anything, I think finding a rails developer with relevant experience is even easier because the stack is so much more standardized. With people with node experience, there is a huge chance that they won't actually have any experience with the libraries that we are using, even though they've used other libraries in the node ecosystem. With rails, however, pretty much everybody with experience in a rails app will be able to jump into our application and will see a lot of stuff that is familiar right out of the gate.

I'm personally an elixir Phoenix Fanboy now, so I don't choose rails as my first choice for personal projects, but I think it is an excellent choice for a company. In fact, I would probably recommend it the most over any framework if you need to hire for it.

[realusername]

That's a point which cannot be underestimated, almost every Rails codebase looks mostly the same while I've never seen two similar node projects. Standardization also has advantages on training and hiring.

[chao-]

>If anything, I think finding a rails developer with relevant experience is even easier because the stack is so much more standardized.

This has been my experience.

[vishalontheline]

I really hope that Elixir / Phoenix will gain more traction.

It is very easy to write a server with it, hosting and deploying is painless, upgrading it (so far) has been painless, linting and debugging has been a breeze.

If you're coming from Ruby, then learning Elixir requires a small mental adjustment (from Object Oriented to Functional). Once you get over that hump, programming in Elixir is just as much fun as Ruby! :)

[cpursley]

Agree. The one thing LiveView is missing is 1:1 Tailwind and Shadcn libraries that are more or less interchangeable with the huge ecosystem around them. I just want to be able to pull in popular components for the wider dev community. There’s some commendable attempts at UI libraries for LiveView, but they are too opinionated stylistically or just slightly off mainline shadcn. I don’t really want to hang my hat on this type of thing and later get burnt when it’s no longer maintained (which is more often the case). Also, the AI tooling for Elixir is greatly lagging which is disappointing as that language is particularly well suited for it.

[arrowsmith]

And if you're coming from Rails you can start here ;)

https://phoenixonrails.com/