[stackbutterflow]

It's hard for people to accept it because it raises new questions about the reaction to adopt.

If it's true then you know you should resist or you're complicit. A lot ot of 20/30/40 something Americans are going to have very difficult conversations with the new generations in 30+ years.

[wing-_-nuts]

>If it's true then you know you should resist or you're complicit.

Resist how exactly? Protest? We're already protesting. They're barely being covered in the news. Armed resistance? Yeah that's gonna work out so well against a militarized police state.

Look through history, from the fall of rome to wwII, and those that came out best during those crises had the good sense to flee to somewhere better.

[stackbutterflow]

Educating yourself on resistance. Reading books about it. Talk to neighbors. Buy weapons and ammo. Be ready.

Have difficult conversations with yourself about what you're ready to do. Have the same conversations with your partner. With your family, friends, neighbors who you know are also against this.

[wing-_-nuts]

Yeah, no. I'm getting my passport today. I've started looking at what's required to get a skilled work visa.

My personal line is when the admin starts imprisoning and renditioning people that don't agree with them, and we basically heard a congressional committee make approving comments about that this week. If it starts happening, well, time for me to cash out and move abroad.

[int_19h]

The problem is that this kind of thing can follow you around if you never push back.

I left Russia 20 years ago for very similar reasons. I didn't think I'd be facing the same choice in US, yet here we are.

There's a difference, though. In Russia, liberals are something like 10% of the population - the groupthink is really authoritarian overall, so there was no realistic hope of fighting back in any meaningful, non-symbolic sense. But I don't think that's the case for US. The majority of people here don't want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship. Their problem is that they don't (yet?) understand that the traditional arsenal of legitimate political tools available to citizens of established democracies - things like voting or peaceful protests - becomes ineffective once authoritarians become sufficiently entrenched, and so you have to move on to other means of resistance.

[wing-_-nuts]

If 'legitimate political tools' are no longer viable, then I'm heading to the nearest border with a bitcoin wallet memorized. From my read of history, once a democracy falls it's often down for the count, replaced by an endless string of strong men. Russia isn't going democratic when putin dies, for example

[thisisit]

Well given that the country has a penchant for altering history such that “you did not see/hear what you actually heard and saw with your own eyes”, there are not going to be any difficult conversations. Civil war was for “state rights” while quietly omitting the slaves part.

Even today when the impact of tariffs are clear people rattle off everything to cover their bases - It will bring back jobs. It will create negotiation leverage for US. (If it did and China ate some of those tariffs what jobs are coming back to the US). These same people will deny their role in the mess they are creating.