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by evklein 409 days ago
> We're talking elderly folks we'd rather not care for ourselves and that we don't want to watch declining and dying, and we're dumping them into a large-scale... well, death facility.

This is pretty cynical. Not everyone puts their aging relative into a home because they want to make it someone else's problem. Taking care of elderly people is basically a full-time job. It's not easy to drop every other responsibility in your life (work, children) and focus on deathcare for someone else.

> there are highly-developed countries where it doesn't exist, or doesn't exist on this scale, simply because of different social norms and taboos

Are we sure this isn't because these countries regulate these industries in such a way that people actually want to work for these places and patients don't get gauged?

> What's the outcome we're hoping for?

The outcome is the same (death), but how you get here is what the central complaint is. Elderly people pay a shit ton and you don't even get the basic services agreed to by the other party - maybe if they're shelling out $11,000 a month they should be. Nursing homes have effectively become a scam, but they do not have to be.

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Aye. I feel like I have it bad in my situation with one elderly parent...

I have a coworker with both his elderly parents and his wife's elderly parents. All four of them are deteriorating rapidly and need constant care and hospital visits. On top of that he has two sick, aging dogs.

We commiserate about the multiple full-time jobs that we have, but seriously he has it unfathomably worse than I do. I'm stressed to my limit and can't even imagine where he's at.

I think this goes back to cultural expectations to some extent. In some cultures the response to that is, "Your parents probably had full-time jobs and then they raised you on top of it, and part of the cycle of life is 'paying that back' when they're old and sick." Granted smaller and more diffuse family units make that harder, but part of it is just the lack of a sense of filial debt to the people who bore and raised you.