[nfriedly]

Not the OP, but hibernate support is one thing that sent me back to windows on my Framework laptop.

In windows, I can just shut the lid and not worry about it, because it will sleep first, and eventually hibernate. Ubuntu would just sleep until the battery dies.

I found instructions for enabling hibernate in Ubuntu, and they did make it show up in the power menu, but it didn't seem to work. (Which is presumably why it was hidden to begin with.)

I also tried NixOS, but I couldn't even get it to boot the installer.

[RMPR]

> In windows, I can just shut the lid and not worry about it, because it will sleep first, and eventually hibernate. Ubuntu would just sleep until the battery dies.

It's really funny because this is one of the things I absolutely do not like about Windows. I absolutely hate it that I put the computer to sleep and when I come back the next day it has hibernated. That said, I agree that hibernation has always been finicky on Linux, however, I would say Ubuntu is not the best distro for this use case. I have been using Fedora and they even publish official guides for it[0] that's how seriously they take it.

0: https://fedoramagazine.org/update-on-hibernation-in-fedora-w...

[horsawlarway]

Just have it suspend to disk and shutdown on lid close.

I do this for arch Linux on my framework and it's fine. Startup time is under ten seconds, essentially zero battery drain, right back in your session with all apps/docs open.

Hibernate is definitely better but still finicky even on Mac/Windows, machines can and do fry themselves, or require a hard reset if you unplug a device at the wrong time. Or unexpectedly continue draining the battery.

It's a terrible, funky, poorly documented, exception filled world down in the low power states for hardware.

[zwaps]

Never had an issue on Mac, never got it to work properly on a single of my many linux laptops

[horsawlarway]

Try unplugging an external USB-C monitor while it's transitioning between states.

It won't come back up ok, as recently as 6 weeks ago.

Or the rampant reports of things like this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255642823?sortBy=rank

[WorldPeas]

the number 1 linux user accessory is the word "just"

[horsawlarway]

A computer is a tool - learn to use it like a tool. People spend far more time learning to drive than they do learning to use computers these days, but I'd wager the computer matters more.

But too many companies have discovered that a docile "user" who's fed constant dopamine hits and has no actionable way to use a device other than open their wallet and fork over cash to watch more cats dance, or shop on more stores is exactly what they want.

Why don't you just click here and pay for Onedrive. Or just click there and accept Apple's new ridiculous terms.

If you just want to watch cats dance... you do you. I'll just keep doing me over here.