[DonHopkins]

>Webrtc uses the user's bandwidth without permission or notification and it used to prevent system sleep on macs without any user visible indication.

>No matter how efficient they made it, javascript "applications" are still bloatware that needlessly waste the user's resources compared to native code.

>No matter how efficient they made it, javascript "applications" are still bloatware that needlessly waste the user's resources compared to native code.

So should we not deliver advanced sandboxed cross platform applications for any platform, and instead deliver unsandboxed native code for all possible platforms? ActiveX called, it wants to say thanks for the endorsement and that it told you so.

And no more zoom meetings because somebody's Mac might not go to sleep? I'm with you on that one, brother!

[nottorp]

> ActiveX called

You do not need to "deliver" inside a bloated VM you know.

Just to spell it out, a web browser is a bloated VM these days.

> And no more zoom meetings

Yes please. No more zoom meetings. Ever.

[DonHopkins]

>You do not need to "deliver" inside a bloated VM you know.

>Just to spell it out, a web browser is a bloated VM these days.

Then Java applets? Oops, that's a bloated VM too.

And how is an M4 emulating x86 code or jitting WASM code not also a bloated VM? Bloated VMs are here to stay.

>> And no more zoom meetings

>Yes please. No more zoom meetings. Ever.

Yay, we've found common ground! Want to chat about it on zoom? ;)

[nottorp]

I can read and write just fine thank you, want o chat about it on irc? :)

[20after4]

IRC and other simple tech are the real losers in the modern tech ecosystem.

[mikrotikker]

If the problem could add reactions and replies it would enable the clients to make it more engaging like it's modern contemporaries