[godelski]

What if you believe both Clinton and Hegseth are in the wrong?

I hold this position and I don't think it's uncommon. Plenty of people think if something is wrong then it doesn't matter who does it.

There's definitely perception bias. Usually conversations are short when we're in agreement. Doesn't create engagement. Doesn't make for good news

[watwut]

There was whole massive campaign against her comparatively much milder infraction. It is crickets now. It was huge.

So, maybe 10 of you care, but the assymetry is beyond apparent.

For that matter, I remember when Obamas tan suit was horrible unpresidential infraction amd lack of respect. Same people voted for Trump not a peep about respectability.

[sokoloff]

How many people were complaining about “her emails” 28 days after the first one was sent? You’re looking at two very different points on the timeline of each event and concluding that everyone thinks they’re different because of the difference in magnitude of discourse on the topics.

Do you think the difference will remain at this level through the next election cycle?

I think plenty of people see massive amounts of equivalence and are more caught up in other, more urgent piles in Washington’s reinvention of the Augean Stables.

[watwut]

Donald Trump literally said she should be in prison her for the email server thing. Literally during campaign. It was cheered on.

The emails scandal was on for months and got invoked during election by conservative pundits, politicians. Again and again and again and again. They made it a whole big thing, pretending to care about security.

So yeah, it matters. The consistent track record of just extremely one sided care for security, respectability, lies and what not actually matter a lot. Now we know that conservatives complaining about X does not mean they care about X. They dont, they are ok when one of them does worst. It is just hypocrisy.

[sokoloff]

That's almost exactly my point. Four weeks into scandal B, it's not getting as much coverage and discussion as scandal A did during a campaign.

None of that is surprising, and I expect the current $SHITSTORM_DU_JOUR to get a lot more amplification in 2028 than in May of 2025, which is the same pattern as happened in scandal A's emails.

She was Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013. We heard a ton about the scandal in the 2016 election cycle [when it was convenient and useful politically], not in 2009-2013.

I'm friends with several retired military officers. They tend towards red, but they're absolutely incensed over the Hegseth topic, especially the ones who flew pointy jets.

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