[skrebbel]

Another counterpoint, he's been a pretty pro-nuance voice for a long time, very un-Elon like. Eg I still frequently quote some of this thread to people: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1210242184341000192.html

My favorite part:

> I've never worked through a night. The only times I worked more than 40 hours in a week was when I had the burning desire to do so. I need 8ish hours of sleep a night. Same with everybody else, whether we admit it or not.

> For creative work, you can't cheat. My believe is that there are 5 creative hours in everyone's day. All I ask of people at Shopify is that 4 of those are channeled into the company.

Obviously, as I'm replying to someone with first-hand Shopify experience, which I don't have, take all this as you wish. I only know the Twitter Tobi. (and I think his "AI first" memo is ridiculous, to the point that I struggle to imagine that the same person wrote this twitter thread)

[hbsbsbsndk]

2019 public-facing Tobi is probably the least insane version. He has gotten worse and more egocentric (and more explicitly right-wing) since then.

Early (pre IPO) Shopify had a pretty toxic internal culture with a lot of drinking and sexual harassment. I was lucky to be there around the post-IPO, pre-pandemic era when there was a bit of structure and the techbros were getting reigned in a bit. Once the pandemic hit I think he just lost his mind.

[remich]

Feels like the "loses mind during COVID" is a common thread in the VC class. Wonder why.

[daveguy]

Because so many of them are spoiled brats that can't deal with even the thought of putting others before themselves? Just guessing. Effective Altruism is a hell of a drug.

[disgruntledphd2]

I think it messed up a lot of us, but it's more visible in VC and founder types.