[BjoernKW]

What's the benefit here (other than the usual nebulous 'because data protection and politics', that is)?

Where do you want to move previously cloud-based applications to?

Who is going to maintain that non-cloud infrastructure?

How do you address and mitigate the risks involved (e.g., security, resilience)?

Unless you can answer those questions, no business will even consider migrating from their existing cloud systems.

That said, there are companies such as VMware that sell "local cloud" setups. Their customers seem like your likely customers.

[thorin]

Regardless of how ridiculous it seems this is a result of the isolationist policies of the US government and there will be traction to invest in such things in EU, Asia and beyond even if the whole thing becomes a complete non-event.

[drstewart]

Yes, the EU should definitely invest in Chinese cloud solutions to protect their privacy and interests. Definitely encouraged.

[thrw909]

Learning from the best ^^ \s

[sam_lowry_]

> What's the benefit here (other than the usual nebulous 'because data protection and politics', that is)?

One of the few working privacy guarantees Transatlantic Data Privacy Framework (TDPF), relied on a U.S. watchdog called the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB). And Donald Trump defunded the PCLOB on January 28.

But even fully functioning TDPF was not without legal troubles.

> Where do you want to move previously cloud-based applications to?

A vast majority of migrations to the cloud that I am aware of were life-and-shift migrations. Putting software back in the locally hosted data centres is often quite feasible, as nothing gets rewritten, really.

> Who is going to maintain that non-cloud infrastructure?

It's the EU, mind you. People stick to jobs much longer than in US. From what I can see, there are still bright engineers inside organizations.

Also... it does not have to be non-cloud. Just non-US.

> How do you address and mitigate the risks involved (e.g., security, resilience)?

I guess that's very project-specific.

> That said, there are companies such as VMware that sell "local cloud" setups. Their customers seem like your likely customers

There is a whole "off Broadcom" movement since well over a year, and the winners are often EU companies.

[thrw909]

> as nothing gets rewritten, really

CI pipelines written specifically for AWS or GCP would need to be rewritten, not to mention the code integrating with managed services..