[practice9]

Well the system prompt is still the same for both models, right?

Kinda points to people at OpenAI using o1/o3/o4 almost exclusively.

That's why nobody noticed how cringe 4o has become

[astrange]

They have different uses. The reasoning models aren't good at multi-turn conversations.

"GPT-4.5" is the best at conversations IMO, but it's slow. It's a lot lazier than o4 though; it likes giving brief overview answers when you want specifics.

[whimsicalism]

people at OAI definitely use AVM which is 4o-based, at least