| > Right, because if one wrong thing is allowed, we should allow... Other wrong things. Unless you think LLMs deserve more rights than actual flesh and blood humans, yes. Either that or get bigtech to stop what they're doing, but we both know that's not going to happen. > Okay. Well I feel sympathy for the poor developers who put time into making a free open source tool that brought many people joy now having their work ripped off without credit because I guess it's okay if LLM training is legal for some reason. If LLMs get to do it, so do humans. If humans don't get to do it, then LLMs don't either. Society has embraced LLMs and bigtech is not going to give up their new toy, so it has to become okay for humans, even if you think this is unfortunate. > I mean, honest to God, how much rationalizing are we going to go through here? The same amount as people go through to excuse legal bullying. > It's okay because LLMs? Again, humans deserve more rights than machines, not less. So apparently, yes. > It's okay because it's free so that means plagiarism is fine? Yeah. No one was hurt, not even financially. You can think it's distasteful, that's fine. > Copyright licenses are "made up nonsense"? Yup, only serves to make the rich richer anyway. |
> If LLMs get to do it, so do humans. If humans don't get to do it, then LLMs don't either. Society has embraced LLMs and bigtech is not going to give up their new toy, so it has to become okay for humans, even if you think this is unfortunate.
> Again, humans deserve more rights than machines, not less. So apparently, yes.
Man, you are fucking obsessed with LLMs. This incident predates the existence of LLMs, has nothing to do with LLMs, and plagiarism and ML training are two completely different issues. And, you keep acting like I am saying I think what happened with LLMs is fine, which I have never said at any point. I didn't say that what happened and is happening with LLMs is fine, only that it is a completely different thing that bears no relation to this whatsoever. Nobody mentioned LLMs. It's not a thing here. Stop talking about fucking LLMs.
> Yup, only serves to make the rich richer anyway.
The GPL is a great example of a copyright license that is explicitly not designed to make the rich richer.