Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by kryptn 408 days ago
I've been liking the new vertical tabs too.
7 comments

How does it compare to sidebery? I use the vertical tabs on that and quite like it but only found them because of another feature, per container socks5 (one for local ip and a few to strategically placed cheap vps to override my network default mullvad vpn tunneling as needed)
Sideberry is still better since it's hierarchical, so tabs are nested. But maybe the tab groups change that? Now or in a future iteration?
Yeah vertical tabs with tab groups have replaced Sidebery's hierarchy and panels for me. Mostly because it feels slightly smoother and more performant as a built-in feature.
Sidebery is awesome but afaik it doesn't seem that it syncs the state of your tabs across browsers. TabStash is not as visually polished but it achieves that capability by using Firefox bookmarks for the tabs and groups.
I've been using the Vertical tabs with Sideberry for a bit. The minified vertical tabs greatly declutters the top of the browser and feels pretty good, but I've got a lot of trees in Sideberry and several panels for organization structure that the built-in vertical tabs can't yet do, so for now most of my navigation is still Sideberry. Tab Groups are something to watch that may help some of what I use multiple panels for in Sideberry. I think native "tree-structure" is a lot more of what I'd particularly want, though.
I like it better than sideberry/treestyletab, but I was not using the hierarchical feature of those two. It's just simpler and better integrated
Not a fan of vertical tabs as truncated titles hurts my fov aesthetics. These days I will just pin the tab when I want to go back to it later but even that has it's limits too.
After a certain number of open tabs, the titles are less truncated with vertical tabs than horizontal tabs. You also have more of the titles in your center view if you have the text distributed in a more rectangular shape than a technically-also-rectangular-but-much-more-elongated shape.
I recently switched to Sidebery for this. Guess I'll have to do a comparison. I really enjoy Sidebery though, It has made my workflow at work much more organized.
It's so much better than any of the extension-based XUL interface hacks. As soon as they can figure out when to auto-expand the sidebar it will be perfect.
Firefox moved away from XUL extensions years ago - they now use a well-defined WebExtension model that is kind of the opposite of hacky.
And yet, many of the extensions that in the XUL days could cleanly change the browser's UI now have a much more hacky user experience.
Yes, because the APIs aren't perfectly fleshed-out. And they may never be, and yet that's still completely OK because the WebExtension model is obviously better along the performance, security, portability, and API stability axes.
WebExtensions aren't clearly better from a performance standpoint. Performance won by removing useful features doesn't count.
This is blatantly false, and one of the most dishonest and manipulative claims that I've seen on HN.

Performance is performance. If one technology is more performant by removing features, useful or not, it it factually faster, and that performance absolutely does count. Features are completely irrelevant to performance measurements of a system.

If you have two cars, car A with top speed 160 MPH and a 0-60 of 3s, and car be with top speech 120 MPH and a 0-60 of 5s, some people may still prefer car B because it has better mileage or nicer features or is cheaper (which is the overall value judgement that you seem to be extremely confused about), but precisely zero sane people will tell you that car A "isn't clearly better from a speed standpoint" because it has less features than car B.

When’s the last time you used an extension of such kind? Sidebery for example doesn’t seem hacky at all to me.
I tried using vertical tabs and tab groups simultaneously, but there seems to be nothing like 'list all tabs' / Recent tab groups, so my tab groups are already lost amongst the other tabs. 'close duplicate tabs' is also missing from vertical tabs.

Since I keep having to go into that menu I just disabled vertical tabs.

When you enable vertical tabs, the main toolbar gains a List All Tabs button at the very right.
Exactly, since the 'list all tabs' is a superset of vertical tab behavior, and I have to go there anyhow for things missing in vertical tabs, I disabled vertical tabs.
Been using vertical tabs to avoid floating toolbar gymnastics while sharing screen on Microsoft Teams. It’s been working great and now I don’t miss the horizontal tabs.
I tried it! Didn’t stick yet but I’ll probably try it again, probably didn’t give it long enough to get used to it