[keybored]

Pro-Chinese sentiment has increased lately here in the West it seems, and part of that must be because the Chinese have managed to put their best propaganda forward. But I don’t see how we can have any sane discussion when one side of the argument can be bad-faith dismissed off the bat.

[blitzar]

I used to believe the western propaganda "they are all peasants" - then I went to see with my own eyes.

If you are going to parrot western talking points then it would be insane conversation.

[lossolo]

> then I went to see with my own eyes

Exactly the same here. I went to see with my own eyes, and the reality is very different from what I hear in some news outlets and from politicians.