[bongodongobob]

That's interesting. Are you primarily a web guy? I'm not and can't get it to do shit with web based stuff because I have no idea what I'm doing and have no idea when I've gone down the wrong rabbit hole. I can get a ton done with Python type desktop apps though, because I already know what I want and how it should generally be designed.

[_bin_]

I am not, no, but have been working on some web stuff recently. It's not that good at web either, it's just less bad than other stuff. If you want a shadcn reactslop landing page that looks vaguely like all the other landing pages on the web, I guess it does that.

It's okay at backend python if I'm very careful about typing, pydantic, etc. But my hope was the "cutting-edge" models would be able to e.g. implement a repository and route given the models and schemata; no such luck. They just aren't great yet, at least not from my testing, hence the hope that someone can share the actual usage of where and how they are rather than just saying so repeatedly.