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by Saline9515 410 days ago
Yes, it was a joke. That said, you don't get the point - it's arbitrary and there is no way to prove that it's true. Yet, it will still be recorded. And yeah, saying once something wrong shouldn't follow you all your life. This is classic legal harassment and intimidation, similar to what was practiced in the USSR against ethnic minorities.

Regarding pro-Palestine protests, it was an example about how being fine with freedom of speech restrictions can come back and bite you in the ass. It always does.
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tonyedgecombe 409 days ago
>That said, you don't get the point

I understand the point you are making, I just don't agree with it.

>it's arbitrary and there is no way to prove that it's true

You aren't going to get a record on hearsay.

>Yet, it will still be recorded.

I don't think you understand how policing works in the UK.

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Saline9515 409 days ago
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/non-crime-hate-in...

Well: - Criticizing a Islam and muslims is considered a NCHI. It's already amazing that criticizing religion is forbidden in democracy. And it's kinda funny given that said religion contains a lot non-avoidable rules that would make any liberal blush very hard (38). Saying "muslims should be stopped, by force if necessary, from practicing genital mutilation on young boys" leads to an NCHI.

- NCHI can be without victim! Just like blasphemy, in the old times (38).

- "Freedom of speech" reserves are vague, and unlike other cases, do not include examples.

- Not using the right invented pronouns can lead to the record of a NCHI (42).

- It doesn't have to be a recurrence, a single occurrence is enough (14).

- It is evaluated on the basis of if it "disturbs someone" (14), which is totally subjective and as such can lead to unfair consideration.

- It can be reported by someone who isn't the victim, but who witnessed it. Hearsay is mentioned as being ok (15, example G, J).

- "Antagonism" is enough to record a NCHI (15). Amazing, really.

- They admit that all of this bullshit is highly subjective, so Police "should use judgement". I really wonder how an Indian police officer will "use judgement" when evaluating an affair involving Pakistanis, for instance. This opens the doors of so many arbitrary procedures.

- If an offense can't be a crime, a NCHI can still be reported! (J)

- Overall, nothing requires the police officers to confirm that what is being recorded really happened.

Living in an ex-soviet country, this is typical of the stories you can hear about how the KGB operated in the population.

And regarding the famous "UK policing". They sent a man to prison for 20 months because he...shouted at a dog. Even a Russian prosecutor would be embarrassed to read such a ridiculous affair. I have a hard time understanding how the UK isn't considered as an authoritarian regime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2nm5jgxlko

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tonyedgecombe 409 days ago
>And regarding the famous "UK policing". They sent a man to prison for 20 months because he...shouted at a dog. Even a Russian prosecutor would be embarrassed to read such a ridiculous affair. I have a hard time understanding how the UK isn't considered as an authoritarian regime.

>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2nm5jgxlko

Every time I read a link from you people it involves some racist thug either engaging in violence or encouraging someone else to do so. I remain unconvinced by your arguments.

>They sent a man to prison for 20 months because he...shouted at a dog.

The police don't send people to prison, the CPS and courts do that.

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