[pjmlp]

You may doubt it, I keep my certainty, given how much Go is being used at Google, versus Java, Kotlin, C++ and Rust.

[Yasuraka]

The Rust of today wouldn't be chosen over the Go of a decade ago, it is fundamentally a bad fit, for similar reasons that the already mature C++ wasn't. Java (similar to C#) would've been viable mainly due to maturity and ecosystem effects, Kotlin/Native might be a contender in another half decade, sooner if the team were to shift priorities.

I say this not just for Kubernetes etc., but greenfield projects today as well.

[pjmlp]

Meanwhile on the field,

https://deislabs.io/posts/still-rusting-one-year-later/

I gather you are aware of Deis Labs history, Microsoft acquisition and such, do you want other CNCF companies that have pivoted into Rust?

[Yasuraka]

More like, an attempt in the field from 2 years ago

> [Warning] This project is currently not actively maintained.

But there is a library by them to build containerd shims with which is maintained: https://github.com/containerd/runwasi

Let's just entertain the idea and pretend that this is a notable project and that one would count it as DevOps tooling. Here are the top 10 across the CNCF in terms of size, courtesy of GitHub's API:

    C++: 3195829832
    Java: 2908175049
    Go: 2005598094
    C: 1225503783
    Python: 931070259
    LLVM: 594277917
    C#: 484071185
    Rust: 460427159
    TypeScript: 428904119
    JavaScript: 273074800

This is the best-case scenario, including irrelevant categories like databases and VMMs that ought to be written in Rust (or C++).

As far as Microsoft itself goes, they have a new push to ~~lock-in~~ embrace and extend cloud customers:

https://blog.radapp.io/posts/2024/04/16/radius-accepted-as-c...

As far as recent projects that gained traction with the CNCF go, I found some nice write-ups:

https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h1/

https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2023-h2/

https://blog.palark.com/cncf-sandbox-2024-h1/

    Go: 30
    Rust: 4 (once to implement another lang)
    Python: 2
    Java: 1
    and 2 that are mixed (Go+{C,Rust})

Fun fact, one of the 30 is Eraser - by Deis Labs.