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by pastage 412 days ago
Nationalism is not compatible with freedom.

When I was young I thought liberties that we viewed as important were something that was provided to all. That it should not matter where you come from. I still think everyone should strive for this.
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edanm 411 days ago
> Nationalism is not compatible with freedom.

Why?

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93po 411 days ago
definition:

> nationalism, ideology based on the premise that the individual’s loyalty and devotion to the nation-state surpass other individual or group interests.

if your highest priority is to the concept and ego of your country, rather than how that country serves its population, then your core values align with the interest of the political establishment and machine rather than with the interests of people. a political establishment's growth and maintenance is damaged by a population's ability to impact it, which means it's damaged by democracy, which means it's damaged by freedom.

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bmn__ 411 days ago
> Nationalism is not compatible with freedom.

That's false. The way you phrased this is that I just need one example to debunk, I'll gladly take the easy win. Here it is: https://freedomhouse.org/country/mongolia

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pastage 411 days ago
Having a strong identity and being proud of it is not the same as nationalism, but I see your point. Definitions are always hard.
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