[paulryanrogers]

I don't deny white flight and red-lining happened, continues in some places, and is horrible. I'm not convinced that's the sole or even primary reason for modern loneliness.

> Things like Elks Lodges went into long term decline when women and blacks had to be admitted.

People don't need institutionalized racism and misogyny to make friends. They already have a right to be racist and privately associate / not associate.

[redczar]

I think you don’t understand what happened. When the laws were changed and forced communities to allow blacks to use municipal pools and when places like Elks Lodges were forced to accept women and minorities white men abandoned these things. Cities stopped funding municipal pools and membership in clubs drastically declined. White men gutted the idea of communal activity in response to civil rights.

[queenkjuul]

Yeah, surely the old white men's clubs were the only communities to be found

Sorry i find this whole line of reasoning absolutely asinine

[redczar]

It’s a historical fact what response to desegregation entailed. I agree that it was asinine. It’s stupid that we don’t have municipal trash service, free ambulances at point of usage, municipal pools, etc.

[queenkjuul]

I've had municipal trash service in every city I've lived in

The municipal pools where i live are well maintained and extremely popular

Nothing you're saying has anything to do with desegregation and you've shown nothing to back up the shit you're pulling from your ass