[mystified5016]

EULAs and TOS are not legal agreements. It is not unlawful to break them.

The TOS is purely a thing that the owner can point at as a legitimate reason for banning you.

There is no law anywhere binding you to the terms of an EULA or TOS. It's even less binding than a verbal agreement and a handshake.

[cmeacham98]

Honestly incredible this level of misinformation is getting posted on HN: https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&q=are+eula+legally+...

[prmoustache]

Caveat: this is not universal and depends on the juridiction.

For example in France a software/service editor can only really attack a user if he is infringing on copyrighted stuff. Outside of that the EULAs only allow it to ban/remove access to its services without risk of legal retaliation. And by infringing copyright I mean redistribution of copyrighted material, not downloading and using it. I am sure this is the case in many other countries.

[cmeacham98]

This is again, wrong. EULA is just another word for "contract", and I'm not aware of any countries that have banned contracts.

Of course, specific EULAs may not be enforceable in some countries because they contain terms prohibited by law. But the concept of EULAs - a contract where you agree to certain terms in exchange for license to use software is enforceable in basically all countries.

[mdaniel]

IANAL, but the "A" is "agreement," which is only true if entered into. If I put a sentence at the top of my website that says "by loading this page you are agreeing to my terms of $1,000,000 per byte downloaded, payable by bitcoin" you are for sure not under any obligation that I can imagine because you didn't agree to my ~~terms~~ demand

[prmoustache]

A contract is only valid if you sign it, not because someone in his office unilateraly decided you have agreed.