[onli]

Microsoft is listed often as example. Dell as well. Apple startet without VCs, but added one a bit later.

[scarface_74]

Microsoft and Apple were founded in the late 70s not exactly applicable in 2025 with a completely different landscape.

[mattmanser]

GitHub, MailChimp, stack overflow, craigslist, Zoho, pluralsight. Just ask an ai.

Or do you want to shift goal posts again?

And it's totally applicable right now given the recent collapse of VC funding.