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by stingraycharles 413 days ago
Where I currently live, my street has no name, my house has no number. If a package is delivered by mail, my phone number needs to be put on the package, and the local delivery operator calls me to either pick it up, or I send my location through telegram and they deliver it to my house.

It’s almost entirely impossible to order through Amazon et al using this type of system, it’s just not supported at all.

The same goes for my country or origin (in EU), they require my address in order to be able to send important mail. It’s just not possible because of the computer systems not accepting anything without a zipcode, address and house number.

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What's preventing some local authority from just naming your street?

And what's preventing you and your neighbors from having a meeting, agreeing on a numbering convention, and putting street numbers on your house? I guess it would be a bit silly/meaningless if you don't have your street name.

Because most of my neighbors are expats and only renting and don’t actually own the property they live in.

Local authority doesn’t care, because it’s a very western problem. Locals rarely have problems with it, and use “go left the second street after the big tree near the market, and then it’s the third house on the right”.

Local people generally don’t use navigation apps like Google Maps, they don’t know how to use it.

Sounds like you have something a little like Carmel, California:

https://ci.carmel.ca.us/post/addresses

A unique characteristic of Carmel-by-the-Sea is that there are no street addresses. Properties are identified, for example, as being on the "west side of San Antonio Street, 3 houses south of 12th Avenue". In addition to this, many owners give their homes a name. The name you choose does not have to be approved or registered with the City.

How do you specify your location? GPS coordinates?
I imagine with something like:

Person name, Local-area name, Region Name, Country name, Phone number

This gets it to the nearest handler to the local area, who then needs to know where the person lives or call them.

This is correct.

<my name>, <my phone>, Siem Reap, Cambodia works.

It’s just not accepted. So I’ll just fill in random numbers at zip code and street names and the delivery companies over here generally know how to deal with it.

Telegram location sharing, he said.
They check my phone number on telegram. If it exists, they usually reach out on telegram, and ask whether I want to pick it up or prefer delivery.

If I want delivery, I share my location over telegram and a bit later someone comes on his motorbike to deliver the package.

> It’s almost entirely impossible to order through Amazon et al

The "almost" is interesting - how do you do it in reality?

I provide an address that looks technically correct, ensure it’s delivered with DHL, and then override DHL to pick up at one of their locations.

Also, there are special delivery companies like CamboQuick that take the whole process out of your hands and use (slow) ships freight to ship stuff from Amazon et al to Cambodia. You’ll have to wait 4-6 weeks, but they handle the custom clearance and everything and deliver it to your house for a $2 fee.

Why don’t you name your road and assign a house number? Either just make it up, or to make it more official contact your local government and propose a name and numbering scheme for it.
Have you tried adding delivery instructions? But I guess you couldn't complete an Amazon order without an address.
I remember a time before Ireland set up postcodes (zip codes) for the whole country. If postcode was mandatory field in an e-commerce address form, you couldn't mail stuff from the UK unless it was in Dublin. Dublin had postcodes.

I managed to find one site that would accept 'null' so the form would submit.

Ireland's postcode system now is a thing called Eircode, which each eircode maps to your address exactly
I used to just do "n/a", "na", "none", or "0000", whatever would make it accept.
In US sites i usually input 90210 because Beverly Hills lol