[brianmurphy]

It's funny you say science requires a lot of honesty and trust, then point at what happened in the past 5 years.

Very few people believe "safe and effective" was telling the truth when it neither stopped someone from getting sick or from passing the virus on to other people. Now the lack of trust is spilling over into other v's that have been effective in eradicating past ailments like polio and measles. The "scientists" have no one to blame but themselves.

[SpicyLemonZest]

It's not "spilling over" as some kind of inevitable process. The President nominated and the Senate confirmed a health secretary who works hard to cultivate mistrust of vaccines. The scientists didn't make them do that.