[no_wizard]

That wasn’t the assertion. The results - not the models themselves, not strictly speaking their over all capabilities - if they have no meaningful improvement by moving to a newer model, why then would I want to switch if I’m not getting any tangible improvement in results?

[luckylion]

> The big companies in this space doing the research are not making leap over leap with each release, and the downstream open source projects are coming closer to the same quality or in fact can produce the same quality (e.g DeepSeek or LLAMA) hence why it’s becoming a commodity.

This was the assertion. "Open source is close/equal in quality", not "open source is enough for plenty of use-cases, not everyone needs the top of the line".