[thisisnotauser]

Perhaps such hubris is how all empires die

[lazide]

It’s how they form.

Do you think Empire forms because of calm discussions over dinner?

It comes from people taking up arms and conquering that they want to take, because they can.

[metalman]

many do die of hubris/arogance Some trundled along for millenia, with just dynastic turn overs. What we are looking at now, with people saying the quiet part out loud, speaks more to pannic than confidence, so....