[idon4tgetit]

"Fix".

So long as the grocery store has groceries, most people will not care what a chat bot spews.

This forum is full of syntax and semantics obsessed loonies who think the symbolic logic represents the truth.

I look forward to being able to use my own creole to manipulate a machine's state to act like a video game or a movie rather than rely on the special literacy of other typical copy-paste middle class people. Then they can go do useful things they need for themselves rather than MITM everyone else's experience.

[genewitch]

A third meaning of creole? Hub, I did not know it meant something other than a cooking style and a peoples in Louisiana (mainly). As in I did not know it was a more generic term. Also, in the context you used it, it seems to mean a pidgin that becomes a semi-official language?

I also seem to remember that something to do with pit bbq or grilling has creole as a byproduct - distinct from creosote. You want creole because it protects the thing in which you cook as well as imparts flavor, maybe? Maybe I have to ask a Cajun.

[namaria]

Pidgin and creole (language) are concepts that have some similarities but don't fully overlap.

"Creole" has colonial overtones. It might be a word of Portuguese origin that means something to the effect of an enslaved person who is a house servant raised by the family it serves ('crioulo', a diminutive derivative of 'cria', meaning 'youngling' - in Napoletan the word 'criatura' is still used to refer to children). More well documented is its use in parts of Spanish South America, where 'criollo' designated South Americans of Spanish descent initially. The meaning has since drifted in different South Americans countries. Nowadays it is used to refer, amongst other things, to languages that are formed by the contact between the languages of colonial powers and local populations.

As for the relationship of 'creole' and 'creosote' the only reference I could find is to 'creolin', a disinfectant derived from 'creosote' which are derivative from tars.

Pidgin is a term used for contact languages that develop between speakers of different languages and somewhat deriving from both, and is believed to be a word originated in 19th century Chinese port towns. The word itself is believed to be a 'pidgin' word, in fact!

Cajun is also a fun word, because it apparently derives from 'Acadiene', the french word for Acadian - people of french origin who where expelled from their colony of Acadia in Canada. Some of them ended up in Louisiana and the French Canadian pronunciation "akad͡zjɛ̃", with a more 'soft' (dunno the proper word, I can feel my linguist friend judging me) "d" sound than the French pronunciation "akadjɛ̃", eventually got abbreviated and 'softened' to 'cajun'.

Languages are fun!

[genewitch]

I just confirmed with 2 native Louisianians that "creole" is, in fact, also the stuff that forms in a BBQ. I have to wonder if it is a bit insensitive to use it in that way, though.

I did not know the Acadiana link, thanks for that.

[namaria]

Interesting, never heard it in that context. Thanks!

[idiotsecant]

Creole is an example of 'a creole'

[teddyh]

The Sultans of Swing are playing Creole.

[ethersteeds]

Go get em tiger!