[avs733]

Sometimes getting caught isn’t a bad thing. If you are trying to seed division between to groups, acting in a way that divides them - e.g., getting caught helping one side - is more effective than what you gain by not getting caught.

I struggle to see what Russia would gain with nlrb data, but getting caught “helping doge” furthers distrust between the two sides of our country - which is something they gain from

[JumpCrisscross]

> struggle to see what Russia would gain with nlrb data

A list of whistleblowers at American companies who presumably don't want said companies to know the details of their work.

[avs733]

That is a good observation

[Braxton1980]

Why would the Russians do this when Trump won the election. Isn't that the best outcome for them related to Ukraine?

>furthers distrust between the two sides of our country - which is something they gain from

How?

[avs733]

The best outcome for them and other potential powerful forces is an America so roiled by internal conflict that it can’t now or ever do anything.

Yeah Trump winning seems to help them in Ukraine but their need is disruption as much as different policy in the longer term.

[Braxton1980]

While I'm just guessing I'd think it would be better to wait until Ukraine is done and trump is out of office. Creating mistrust in Doge only helps Democrats

[avs733]

No, the two sides live in different information spheres.

This story will percolate up to many democrats who will be furious that Russia is “helping” “doge”.

Separately, it won’t (or will be dismissed as “overreacting” or “lying”) by republicans. They will see the democrats as overreacting and having trump derangement syndrome.

Meanwhile, the next doge encounter with an agency now brings greater fear of illicit acts for internal IT people and more controls for doge to demand are turned off creating more conflict within government function.

The sides believe in the evil and stupidity of the other will be further ossified. Meanwhile, Russia is effectively able to do espionage in a way where getting caught doesn’t diminish the value of the espionage work they are engaged in.

[lobsterthief]

This is a great take but please don’t even dignify “trump derangement syndrome” by using it in conversation like this. That’s exactly what the people who created the term wanted it to be used for, ironically sowing further division.