[damnitbuilds]

Barcelona has some pedestrian areas but to call it "very pedestrian friendly" when it is mostly small blocks divided by busy roads is a stretch.

And I fear its anti-tourist movement is really an anti-foreigner movement.

[toomuchtodo]

https://www.sidewalkchorus.com/p/barcelona

[damnitbuilds]

Ah yes, the planners' great idea of mixing cars and people on the same street.

I don't know why we wasted all that money on totally unnecessary sidewalks and bike paths.

Oh yes: It. Does. Not. Work. For. Pedestrians.

[toomuchtodo]

Has not been my experience with two children under 10. YMMV. I would pay much more than I pay today for the walkable and bicycling I’m able to have when in BCN (vs say, Chicago).

[damnitbuilds]

You trust the lives of your under-10s to the good behavior of cars driving down your street?

I would not do that.

[toomuchtodo]

In Barcelona? I do, and have never had a problem like I had in the US where I was afraid someone wasn't paying attention and was going to hit them (with multiple near misses). Call it urban planning, call it people in a European city taking more care, whatever the root cause, that is my anecdotal observation. You can always compare vehicular pedestrian deaths in the US to those in Europe if you're looking for something more data driven.

Exactly How Far U.S. Street Safety Has Fallen Behind Europe, in Three Bombshell Charts - https://usa.streetsblog.org/2020/10/10/exactly-how-far-u-s-s... - October 10, 2020

Trends in pedestrian fatalities per capita [graphic] - https://lede-admin.usa.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/si...

Shifting Gears: How Driving Cultures Influence Pedestrian Safety Across Continents - https://medium.com/@noamaital/shifting-gears-how-driving-cul... - Jan 8, 2024

[damnitbuilds]

We are not discussing general accident figures on normal streets.

We are discussing the comment you replied to: "the planners' great idea of mixing cars and people on the same street." which was in reply to a link discussing that idea.

And you wrote that you thought that was safe for 10-year-olds. Which it is not. A street with pedestrians and cars on it is called a "street" and is not a safe place for any pedestrian, let alone a 10-year-old. Which makes it a stupid, dangerous idea, but one that is cheap for the planners to implement, hence its popularity.