Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by fidotron 424 days ago
> Users in the US don't care about protecting their privacy either.

They absolutely do, you just like to dismiss it as being about status.

It was similar when RIM were on top in north america. The status came because of their association with business because they provided secure messaging. High status people care about privacy and security.
1 comments
LunaSea 424 days ago
> They absolutely do, you just like to dismiss it as being about status.

No, they don't. I just gave you three counter examples.

Why is it that iPhone users prefer GMail over iCloud Mail?

Source: https://www.statista.com/chart/34197/share-of-us-respondents...

> The status came because of their association with business because they provided secure messaging.

Users have no understanding of security. High status or not.

link
fidotron 424 days ago
> Users have no understanding of security. High status or not.

Upper middle class americans absolutely do, or they don't stay that way for very long. The US has a culture of a lot more personal responsibility, and a lot less trust of the government to handle it.

> Why is it that iPhone users prefer GMail over iCloud Mail?

They already had it from before people realized it was a bait and switch. Work users will almost certainly be using the Exchange integration, and private messaging is done via iMessage.

link
LunaSea 424 days ago
> They already had it from before people realized it was a bait and switch.

So you mean to say that they made the same mistake that the supposed European users did with the app stores?

> Upper middle class americans absolutely do, or they don't stay that way for very long.

Yet they are on the same very public and absolutely no private or secure social networks (Facebook, TikTok, Instagram) as the rest of the world?

link
fidotron 424 days ago
> So you mean to say that they made the same mistake that the supposed European users did with the app stores?

Absolutely, and they learned from this, as did Apple, hence the rules they came up with to stop Google and Facebook from doing what they were trying to do, which the EU remain oblivious to, supposedly.

This is why new Google products and services are basically doomed to fail in the US market, almost regardless of how good they are.

> Yet they are on the same very public and absolutely no private or secure social networks (Facebook, TikTok, Instagram) as the rest of the world?

You missed a big one: Snapchat; popular mainly in the US purely because of the privacy angle. Those others you mention are used for deliberate sharing.

link