[jonplackett]

I really love supabase. And I’m glad they are getting some funding because I’m terrified they’ll get bought by Amazon or google and completely ruined.

The developer experience is first rate. It’s like they just read my mind and made everything I need really easy.

- Deals with login really nicely

- Databases for data

- Storage for files

- Both of those all nicely working with permissions

- Realtime is v cool

- Great docs

- Great SDK

- Great support peeps

Please never sell out.

[DidYaWipe]

I have no idea where you're finding "great docs" and "great support," because the lack of both of those drove me away from Supabase after having invested quite a bit of time and effort in it.

[whstl]

Which parts did you have a problem with?

Is it the PostgREST part? Are you using it for simple queries, or are you trying to use it for complex business logic?

Asking because PostgREST is great when you use it the way it’s intended but like any tool it will underperform when used in a way it’s not supposed to. It’s a screwdriver that you shouldn’t use to hammer nails.

[DidYaWipe]

I didn't see any purpose to the PostgREST part as a back end to an application, because I'm not going to hard-code queries in my application. My server is going to provide an API that isolates the application from the DB structure.

So no... PostgREST wasn't a factor for me at all.

[steve-chavez]

> My server is going to provide an API that isolates the application from the DB structure.

The same can be achieved with "schema isolation". See https://docs.postgrest.org/en/v12/explanations/schema_isolat....

[DidYaWipe]

Thanks for the reference. I'll take a look.

[whstl]

It seems your opposition to it is philosophical and/or based on assumptions (that one must "hard-code queries in the application"), or limitations of Supabase's Swift library.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with this kind of tool, but I hope that one day you choose to revisit it.

[DidYaWipe]

"Seems" how? I gave specifics, not assumptions. I already explained WHY an auto-generated HTTP API to your database caters to the hard-coding of queries in the application. And the shortcomings of Supabase's Swift library (or its doc) are neither philosophical nor assumed.

So... what are you talking about?

[whstl]

You keep saying “this does X which is bad” while at the same time saying “if it doesn’t do X it is useless”.

To me this is a 100% philosophical opposition.

People find this tech useful. You might prefer writing your own backend. Claiming it doesn’t save time for people who use it to save time however doesn’t make much sense, does it?

> And the shortcomings of Supabase's Swift library (or its doc) are neither philosophical nor assumed.

I didn’t say it was.