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by Der_Einzige
424 days ago
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This 100% tracks with my experience. Also fun stuff many don't know - If you run a regular models chat template with a reasoning tuned model, it can go back to acting like the base model, with no "thinking" process. "Reasoning" models are not any better than non reasoning models. It's a parlor trick, and benchmarks which claimed it wasn't are bad. |
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Well, of course. They've been "fine-tuned" with specific chat templates. Remove those and the fine-tune doesn't take precedence anymore. That's expected behaviour I'd say.
> "Reasoning" models are not any better than non reasoning models. It's a parlor trick, and benchmarks which claimed it wasn't are bad.
All of them? Including the closed ones, never public? I highly doubt that.