[alanfranz]

With the difference that intelli* is usually correct - i.e. it fetches all the possible methods from actual code, and you can see the related api docs. It’s another view for the same data (more or less - of course there can be docs other than api docs)

With AI you’ve got no idea whether something is right, it’s a probablistic thing

That’s why I don’t buy the “AI as just another abstraction layer” argument. AI is something different and we should use it differently.

[skydhash]

I also wonder if people truly learned their IDE. Even xCode with all its warts have nice feature for completion, debugging, profiling, documentation,…

It seems like all they know is VS Code which is neither a good editor, nor a good IDE.

[bayindirh]

From my experience, people are really wary of learning the tool they're using to code, because any editor similar to VSCode fulfills their needs.

However, as you said, mastering a proper IDE is a superpower and allows much more to be done in a single window in a shorter amount of time.

Also, since VSCode is everywhere, getting people off of it, or showing much capable software is a sad and moot effort, from my experience, again. KDEs humble KATE is much better than VSCode on many fronts.

[skydhash]

> Also, since VSCode is everywhere, getting people off of it, or showing much capable software is a sad and moot effort

The issue is that they're not learning VS Code. They install a lot of plugins, but they're not really learning them. I've seen people that still go through the explorer to open a file.

[bayindirh]

It's not limited to VSCode. Except some hardcore Emacs/Vim circles, I don't see any people trying to understand and use the power of the tools they have at hand.

They even find configuring an editor or an IDE as wasting time, and of no use. Then, when you show how you handle some stuff, they ask "how did you do that??!??".