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by kahawe 5055 days ago
Well, to be fair there are different concepts at work here and I agree, if nobody introduced you to what is going on there with OOP then this might look very arbitrary and bloated but the typical "Hello World" is probably not the best example to compare them like that. When you compare typical plain objects in Python and Java then Java is quite alright IMHO. Let's leave the OOP or no-OOP discussion aside on purpose.

And eclipse is not a pre-requisite to code Java; you get everything you need in the JDK and you best start with that, then it becomes clearer whatever it is your IDE is actually doing for (or against) you...