[znpy]

Have we stopped, really?

Last time i was at a faang my org also had offices in one of those “low-income countries”. So in a way we haven’t stopped.

Also, depending on how you define “low-income” then up to two thirds of the organisation i worked in was in a low-income country.

[gbear605]

In my experience, directly hiring (or hiring through a local company) developers in a “low-income country” - in my experience, Eastern Europe and Latin America - goes a lot better than just contracting out a body of work to a third party. Especially if your company is already fully remote, you’re able to get developers who integrate onto your team just like American devs, and are just as good at coding.

[nyarlathotep_]

> Have we stopped, really?

No, when I was at a large, well-known company a year ago, job listings were 2:1 off-shore (India, South America) vs on-shore. There was also an increasing amount of contractors used, even for public-facing stuff you wouldn't expect.

[marcosdumay]

The problem with outsourcing is on holding people accountable for a written specification. It's not on the location of the developers.