[whoistraitor]

Yeh it’s strange it includes cockney so prominently. It isn’t really very present unless you spend time around the various gentlemen frequenting sports pubs and pie and mash shops in east London, or if you take a black cab very often. I’d say the “roadman” dialect, mixing cockney and Jamaican patois, plus grime vibes, is FAR more common. I’ll hear it everyday wandering around South and east London. I guess it’s a London dialect so it’s in that umbrella,… but how come cockney gets such a fat slab of land?

[ascorbic]

That's multicultural London English, or MLE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multicultural_London_English

[KaiserPro]

> pie and mash shops

p-aye an mashhhh, bruv

[simonh]

You used to be able to get pie, mash and liquor round me in the Bexley area until about 10 years ago, but the ones I knew have closed now and I don’t know where the nearest place is.

Not sure if you can still get Jellied Eels in Eltham, which would be a shame if you can’t.

[KaiserPro]

I heard one of manzies shut down in bermondsey this year, but there is a new one on the isle of sheppey.

[0x91]

it was the deptford one. the bermondsey and peckham ones are still going strong.